Rabbi Wolicki Looks At Traddy Catholics -- II
I'm continuing to discuss Rabbi Wolicki's arguments against the traddy (mostly) Catholic anti-Zionists, which I started yesterday. I've embedded the same video above, but I'll be talking about the second half of it, which begins at 6:51. I used to teach rhetoric over 50 years ago, and his argument here is one of the best pieces I've ever seen. I admire it simply as an astonishingly good argument, separate from its subject matter, which I also find compelling. It's reminiscent of Aquinas, in that it spends a great deal of time considering opposing arguments, but it doesn't follow Aquinas's formal stucture.
Beginning at 6:51, he summarizes the position he's taken in the first half of his argument, in which he agrees with the contemporary position of the Catholic Church, "that the Jews are participants in God's salvation is theologically unquestionable. How can that be possible? . . . How that can be possible remains an unfathomable divine mystery."
The official position of the Catholic Church is that the Abrahamic Covenant was never revoked. He goes on to quote Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI supportng this position. But then he moves to the objections from the Catholic anti-Zionists, especially their assertion that the Jews in Israel today aren't the Jews of the Old Testament. At 10:25:
So, let me sum this up. You have a new theological reality. OK, the Jews are no longer just witnesses in exile, because that just doesn't hold water any more. The Jews are now acknowledged by Pope John Paul II, by Pope Benedict, by the Vatican itself in official documents, as a living people who still have a covenant. OK, and here's the key point. Once you accept that the Jewish people of today are the same Jewish people and still have a covenant with God, you can't just ignore what has happened in the history of the 20th century.
You can't ignore the survival of the Jewish people in exile. You can't ignore the return, and the ingathering, and the sovereignty in the land of Israel. . . . You don't have to jump all the way to full theological endorsement of Christian Zionism in the modern state of Israel, and the Vatican itself has not done that. The Vatican says it's still a mystery to be worked out. But you also can't go back to Augustine as if nothing has changed.
Let me say this a slightly different way. If Augustine was alive today, with a state of Israel, with millions of Jews ingathered from the four corners of the Earth, living in a prosperous, independent state in the land of Israel, he never would have said what he said, it woulld have been incoherent, it would have made no sense. But that's what some of these traditional Catholic voices are trying to do. They're trying to say that Augustine is still true, that the doctrines they've inherited for centuries are still true.
But they have a problem. What do they do? The Jewish people are back in the land of Israel. Reality contradicts that theological position. If they accept that the Jews are still the Jews, if they accept that the covenant is still in force, then Augustine's entire framework starts to fall apart, in light of current events. So what's the work around? The work around is to say that the Jews of today aren't the real Jews. Now, you notice from what John Paul II said, and what Benedict said, obviously that's not the opinion of Catholic leadership.
But these podcasters and public noisemakers who are saying that the Jews of today aren't the real Jews. . . . the reason they're doing it is that if they accept that the Jews are the Jews, then they have to face the fact that. . . the actual Jewish people from the Bible have returned to their land in mass numbers, ingathered as the Bible predicts [e g Isaiah 11:11-12]. They have to deal with that. They don't want to deal with that. So, rather than adjust their theology, as the Vatican is trying to do, and as, frankly, Christian Zionists have also done, they also would inherit this theology from Augustine.
It took different forms. It's also known as replacement theology or supersessionism, that the church has replaced Israel, the Jews don't have a covenant any more, Protestants believed that, too. Luther believed that, too. But what Christian Zionists have done is they've adjusted their theology to the reality. They said, "Hey, wait a second. It looks like the Jews actually still do have a covenant." OK, so you don't have to go all the way to where they are, but this denial of Jewish identity, understand where it's coming from. It's not just crass anti-Semitism.
It's coming from a place of trying to hold onto their theology in the face of a reality that denies it. So they claim that today's Jews aren't really Israel, and therefore the modern state of Israel is completely meaningless. In other words, they're protecting their theology by rejecting reality, even though the Catholic Church itself, its leadership going back decades, as I've just shown you, is moving in the opposite direction. Now, it hasn't fully worked out all the implications yet, but it has already taken the most important step. It has afirmed, as you saw from those quotes, that the Jewish people are still in covenant with God.
And once you say that, you've opened the door to a question that can't be avoided forever, which is, "What does it mean?" If the covenental people of God are back in their land and no longer scattered among the nations, what does it mean? That's the question. And that's the tension you're seeing play out right now. That's why they're throwing this temper tantrum and screaming at Christian Zionists that they're heretics. I kind of feel for these Catholics, because they have a theological construct, and it's crumbling.
At the beginning of this video, I said this has to do with theology versus eschatology. Let me explain what I mean. Theology is trying to understand God. OK? So we could have a different theology and coexist with each other forever. So, for example, I as a Jew don't believe in the Trinity. A Christian who believes in the Trinity has a different concept of the Godhead than I do, and we don't need to sort out that difference. You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe, and we can coexist. It doesn't have to come to a head at any point.
But eschatology is different. Eschatology is what we believe religiously, or in terms of our faith, about how the end is going to play out. Right? How is history going to play out. When you make an eschaological assertion that contradicts my eschatological assertion, . . . someone's gonna be right, and someone's gonna be wrong. So if your eschatological assertion is that the Jewish people have lost their covenant, and instead are going to remain in exile in perpetuity, . . . and at the same time, I as a Jew would be saying, for all those 2,000 years, "Nope, we are going to return one day. . ."
So, picture it's . . . 500 years ago, and there's a Christian saying, "You've been in exile for 1500 years, and you're going to remain in exile forever, that's my tradition, that's what I believe." And a Jew says, "No, I believe that no matter how long we've been in exile, we are going to go back." So at the time, they have a dispute that doesn't come to a head. But what happens when history plays out, and it does come to a head, and one belief about the future, that the Jewish people will come out of exile back to their land, suddenly is true?
When you make an eschatological assertion, you have to be ready for the possibility that history might move in a different direction. And then, what do you do about it? . . . That's what this whole thing is about. That's why these traditional Catholics are lashing out. . . . They want, out of a sense of piety, somewhat, they're looking at their traditions and saying, "Listen, these are our great theologians, this is the faith tradition that we've inherited. . ." But unfortunately, that includes this eschatological assertion by Augustine that has turned out to be refuted by the facts on the ground.
So when the Vatican is grappling with that and adjusting their theology, they're actually being humble. They're looking at what God has done in the world and saying, "OK, we need to reassess this." But it's these traditional Catholic podcasters and loudmouths that we're seeing on line . . . rather than adjust their theology to the new reality, they're denying the reality on the ground, they're denying that the Jews are the Jews. I hope this made sense.
Again, he's focusing on people like Candace Owens, who, as I'm gradually learning, seems to think Rabbi Lowicki was a key member of the Jewish conspiracy to assassinate Charlie Kirk, nor Megyn Kelly. But neither Candace Owens, who married her husband after a week's courtship and seems to have "converted" with him to Catholicism soon after, apparently without going through RCIA/OCIA, or Megyn Kelly, a cradle Catholic who nevertheless only decided to become observant enough in her mid-50s just to start to secure a decree of nullity for her first marriage, is an especially good Catholic.And Tucker Carlson isn't Catholic at all, though he seems to be the sort of Episcopalian who thinks he sorta-kinda is. If these are the only people Wolicki is singling out, this might almost be a straw man argument. But what of more serious-seeming Catholics who claim to be traditionalist, like, say, Edward Feser and his circle? Holding Wolicki's perspective up to them might be closer to a steel man argument. I want to look at Feser and some of his arguments against Israel tomorrow in the context Rabbi Wolicki has given us.

