Thoughts On The NSA Trans Chat Rooms
We have cultivated sources within the National Security Agency—one current employee and one former employee—who have provided chat logs from the NSA’s Intelink messaging program. According to an NSA press official, “All NSA employees sign agreements stating that publishing non-mission related material on Intelink is a usage violation and will result in disciplinary action.” Nonetheless, these logs, dating back two years, are lurid, featuring wide-ranging discussions of sex, kink, polyamory, and castration.
You can go to the link and the various stories on alt sites for the lurid details, and I don't see much point in belaboring them here. The UK Daily Mail carried the reactions from the Trump administration:
[Director of National Intelligence Tulsi] Gabbard, who oversees the 18 American spy agencies, responded to the report promising to clean house and confirmed the existence of the chats, which have been destroyed.
'This behavior is unacceptable and those involved WILL be held accountable. These disgusting chat groups were immediately shut down when @POTUS issued his EO ending the DEI insanity the Biden Admin was obsessed with. Our IC must be focused on our core mission: ensuring the safety,' she wrote.
Elon Musk also had a crack at the news and referenced his email asking workers to explain their duties each week: 'Well... at least we know what they did last week.'
. . . An NSA spokesperson told Rufo that the chats were real and that they're 'taking actions against any and all employees who abused this system.'
Several questions came up for me concerning the details of the chats. First, just to establish the context here, I double-checked the numbers. An NIH study estimates the number of transgender individuals in the US as 390 adults per 100 000, or almost 1 million adults nationally. This comes out to .002% of the US population of 340 million. Many of the chats in the City Journal story purport to cover male-to-female bottom surgery.However, according to UVA Health,
Gender reassignment (confirmation) surgery is more common in transgender men (42 to 54%) than transgender women (28%). Top (chest gender confirmation) surgery is performed approximately twice as often as bottom (genital) surgery. In studies that assessed transgender men and women as an aggregate, top surgery accounts for 8 to 25% and bottom surgery accounts for 4 to 13%.
Just for convenience, then, let's say 10% of trans men have had bottom surgery -- at least we're getting some idea about order of magnitude. So if there are maybe 1 million trans men in the US, although this is using the total for both genders, and these figures are iffy in any case, if 10% of trans men have had bottom surgery, we're talking somewhere around 100,000 people total in all 50 states. But apparently enough of this small group works, or worked, for the NSA to be a significant part of the workforce and secure management support for a chat group on agency time using agency resources. According to the City Journal report at the link,
Activists within the agency used LGBTQ+ “employee resource groups” to turn their kinks and pathologies into official work duties. According to the current NSA employee, these groups “spent all day" recruiting activists and holding meetings with titles such as “Privilege,” “Ally Awareness,” “Pride,” and “Transgender Community Inclusion.” And they did so with the full support of NSA leadership, which declared that DEI was “not only mission critical, but mission imperative.”
Oddly enough, DOGE has surfaced a separate trans influence operation within the intelligence community, of which USAID, source of the funds in question, is a major part:
Stonewall could be forced to cut up to half of its staff after President Trump’s decision to freeze foreign aid, The Times understands.
Workers at the [UK] LGBTQ+ charity were told on Thursday that restructuring would take place, and that only roles with dedicated funding would be safe.
. . . Sources said they believed up to half of the workforce could be made redundant in the move, which they were told would “secure the future of Stonewall for the long term as a significant LGBTQ+ organisation able to deliver impactful campaigns and legislative change across the UK and further afield”.
Insiders believed the announcement was linked to decisions made by Trump over the provision of foreign aid.
But isn't this just a different way of saying a key UK trans influence operation was astroturf funded by the US deep state? And the US deep state, judging from the NSA chats, has been working on behalf of a tiny minority within a tiny minority, viz, trans men who have had bottom surgery -- or at least claim to have had it. I question how much of the talk in the chats was pure moonshine. At the City Journal link,
Last January, chatroom members discussed their practice of polyamory, or “ethical non-monogamy.” “[A] polycule is a polyamorous group,” one employee explained. “A is my [girlfriend], and B-G are her partners. . . . then B&C are dating but not C&D, nor E, F, or G with any of the others, though there are several MWB (metas-with-benefits) connections.” Another employee claimed to be part of a nine-member “polycule,” adding that “some of our friends are practically poly-mers, with all the connected compounds.”
A lot of this must be simple baloney, tall tales on taxpayer time. On one hand, this is money going down a black hole, but on the other, the story raises legitimate concerns, especially if this is mostly just guys reinforcing each other's fantasies:
These NSA chat logs suggest the presence of at least hundreds of gender activists within the intelligence services who cannot distinguish between male and female, and who believe that discussing castration, polyamory, and “gangbangs” is an appropriate use of public resources. For psychological and ideological reasons, these kinds of people will not be easily sidelined.
Well, as Musk put it, at least we know what they did last week. And for that matter, how many of these people "work from home"? If Musk's tactics of creative destruction are effective in getting rid of them, so much the better.